Global Kids' Digital Media Initiative

Community Forum 1

Presentation by Hayduke Ebisu on SL Activism and Commonwealth Island
[8:22] Hayduke Ebisu: we built a set of four sims called the Commonwealth Islands
[8:22] Hayduke Ebisu: and the intent was to create a beautiful, immersive environment where people woudl want to be
[8:22] Hayduke Ebisu: I'll flip through some slides of the sims
[8:23] Hayduke Ebisu: once again, they are on the web: http://www.slideshare.net/jknauer/activism-in-second-life-commonwealth-islands
[8:23] Shava Suntzu: just fine
[8:23] Hayduke Ebisu: the idea was to create a beautiful environment, pay attention to small details
[8:23] Hayduke Ebisu: and then...
[8:23] Hayduke Ebisu: start integrating content and organizations into the environment
[8:24] Hayduke Ebisu: but lead with gorgeous design, so that organizations would be inspired to do more than just build ugly displays (as they tend to do elsewhere... sorry, but true)
[8:24] Vivienne Cassavetes: LOL
[8:24] Hayduke Ebisu: educational content becomes integrated into the environment
[8:24] Hayduke Ebisu: everything is clickable
[8:24] Hayduke Ebisu: to find out more info
[8:24] Hayduke Ebisu: this is a display about alternative energy
[8:25] Hayduke Ebisu: and looking forward to how it could be... modeling the future is a thing SL is pretty good at
[8:25] Hayduke Ebisu: people can learn very specific things by having their avatar experience it... like how to install a energy efficient hot water heater
[8:25] Hayduke Ebisu: they should also be able to experience the "bad" side of things too
[8:26] Hayduke Ebisu: we've built a to-scale walk through of a nuclear power plant
[8:26] Hayduke Ebisu: so you can see how it works and how it doesn't
[8:26] Hayduke Ebisu: ;-)
[8:26] Hayduke Ebisu: and we've attempted to also try to help people experience the choices/challenges we face as we make future decisions
[8:26] Hayduke Ebisu: that's just a taste of some of the immersive education stuff
[8:26] Rik Riel: neat!
[8:26] Hayduke Ebisu: but we've gone a step further as well
[8:27] Hayduke Ebisu: we're also providing a space for activists to come together, meet and organize
[8:27] Hayduke Ebisu: the next few slides are from different protests that were organized from within Second Life
[8:27] Earadriede Callisto: interesting
[8:27] Hayduke Ebisu: this is a peace protest... trying to prevent the bush admin's march to war
[8:28] Hayduke Ebisu: this is an ACLU protest
[8:28] Hayduke Ebisu: it looks a bit like a RL protest
[8:28] Hayduke Ebisu: with just cooler avatars! ;-)
[8:28] Shava Suntzu: So really, these are more rallies than protests, since the people who could change things -- will they ever know of the events?
[8:28] Hayduke Ebisu: this was a peace chain organized by Viv (who's here)
[8:28] Hayduke Ebisu: thousands of avatars participated in one day
[8:28] Hayduke Ebisu: you can see it was quite a major event
[8:29] Hayduke Ebisu: with lots of folks
[8:29] Hayduke Ebisu: but the coolest part
[8:29] Hayduke Ebisu: is that it spread to other sims as well
[8:29] Michele Mrigesh: Hands Across SL
[8:29] Hayduke Ebisu: we have no idea how many people participated beyond commonwealth
[8:29] Hayduke Ebisu: whichi s great
[8:29] Vivienne Cassavetes: Well we had a fair amount of people who were for war etc attend our evnets shava
[8:29] Hayduke Ebisu: ok
[8:29] Hayduke Ebisu: so the last big protest that bears some time to talk about
[8:30] Hayduke Ebisu: is the one SL event that has had the most "real" world impact
[8:30] Hayduke Ebisu: we host an international labor support group on Commonwealth
[8:30] Hayduke Ebisu: they organize labor unions around the world
[8:30] Hayduke Ebisu: and they had an issue with IBM Italy's contract negotiations with a local labor union in Italy (this is all real-life stuff)
[8:31] Hayduke Ebisu: they organized a virtual labor strike against IBM's presence here in SL
[8:31] Hayduke Ebisu: got thousands of avatars to participate within a 12 hour period
[8:31] Hayduke Ebisu: got TONS of media coverage around the world
[8:31] Hayduke Ebisu: and IBM Italy caved within a short period of time
[8:31] Hayduke Ebisu: and they even cited the intense media exposure as the reason for giving in
[8:32] Hayduke Ebisu: incidentally... several management folks in IBM Italy were removed from their position because of their handling of this issue
[8:32] Hayduke Ebisu: further
[8:32] Hayduke Ebisu: the French Senate awarded the organization that we host on Commonwealth with a medal
[8:32] Hayduke Ebisu: it is the highest possible honor an organization can receive in France
[8:33] Hayduke Ebisu: which to me, is one of the most mind-bending examples of the potential power of the virtual world for organizing a virtual strike
[8:33] Hayduke Ebisu: toppled a RL company's negotiating position
[8:33] Hayduke Ebisu: caused hundreds of articles to be written in RL papers
[8:33] Hayduke Ebisu: and no one had to go on real strike irl
[8:33] Hayduke Ebisu: avoiding lots of hassle for local workers, the company, etc
[8:34] Hayduke Ebisu: totally insane, but cool ;-)
[8:34] Shava Suntzu: < gryn >
[8:34] Hayduke Ebisu: which leads one to question what the heck this virtual world thing is all about
[8:34] Hayduke Ebisu: with all the serious stuff we do it's important to remember the fact that people do want to have fun here too
[8:34] Hayduke Ebisu: so we have LOTS of activities for people to participate in on Commonwealth
[8:34] Hayduke Ebisu: surfing, horseback riding, hangliding...
[8:35] Hayduke Ebisu: musical events
[8:35] Hayduke Ebisu: (that's a concert being given by a student from Juiliard)
[8:35] Earadriede Callisto: well actually in the beginning Second Life is advertised as a game
[8:35] Hayduke Ebisu: even things like Tai Chi and meditation sessions
[8:35] Hayduke Ebisu: (there are some going on today, for example)
[8:35] Earadriede Callisto: that's why people got that game idea
[8:35] Hayduke Ebisu: last slide...
[8:35] Rik Riel: fun and friendship are primary motivating factors!
[8:35] Shava Suntzu: Life is a game...:)
[8:36] Hayduke Ebisu: we're also working on creating better ways for information to flow into and out of Second Life
[8:36] Hayduke Ebisu: this is our GeoGlobe project, which was the first experiment with creating a virtual interaction with Google Earth data
[8:36] Hayduke Ebisu: ok
[8:36] Rik Riel: (One more minute, Hayduke?(
[8:36] Hayduke Ebisu: that's it for me... ;-)
[8:36] Hayduke Ebisu: go check out our website
[8:36] Hayduke Ebisu: if you have an org that would like to become a member of our community
[8:37] Hayduke Ebisu: read about how on that site and sign up
[8:37] Hayduke Ebisu:
[8:37] Mariel Voyunicef: :D
[8:37] Hayduke Ebisu: questions?
[8:37] Michele Mrigesh: Applause!!!
[8:37] Mariel Voyunicef claps
[8:37] Rik Riel: thanks so much Hayduke!
[8:37] Earadriede Callisto: nicely done
[8:37] Hayduke Ebisu: thanks
[8:37] Elle Connaught: :claps.
[8:37] Rik Riel: that really put activism in SL in a good context for our discussion
[8:38] Rik Riel: If I might transition from that to talking about the events that already happened here last week
[8:38] Hayduke Ebisu: sure
[8:38] Hayduke Ebisu: I'll just put away the slides
[8:38] In Kenzo: I definitely want to hear more on geoglobe Hayduke, thanks!~

General Discussion
[8:38] Rik Riel: Who was here last week for the opening events and art gala?
[8:38] In Kenzo: /hi
[8:38] In Kenzo: hello beautiful
[8:39] Rik Riel: anyone?
[8:39] Mariel Voyunicef: Meeee.
[8:39] Mariel Voyunicef: :p
[8:39] In Kenzo: a fewo fus...
[8:39] Rik Riel: haha
[8:39] Michele Mrigesh: I didn't hear about it Rik...
[8:39] In Kenzo: i waved, feeling quiet.
[8:39] Michele Mrigesh: and I'm a Commonwealth member (group)
[8:39] Rik Riel: for those that don't know, In Kenzo worked with USC to organize the art gala on March 19 that was a huge success
[8:40] In Kenzo: The art is still here to explore, and there are videos of last weeks events?
[8:40] Rik Riel: And Mariel was our in-world moderator for the launch of the Center on March 20 with the prosecutor of the ICC
[8:40] Mariel Voyunicef: (Was I?)
[8:40] Mariel Voyunicef: :p
[8:40] Rik Riel: jaja
[8:40] Mariel Voyunicef: I was the q person
[8:40] In Kenzo: Take a trip up to 500 m to see a piece that Shava worked on with Tuna, and a handful of other skyart. The 3/20 events were amazing, I was very impressed with Mr. Ocampo.
[8:41] Rik Riel: we have video and links to flickr photos up on justicecenter.net for those that couldn't make it
[8:41] Rik Riel: so let me open the floor and ask people, based on what we've already done, and Hayduke's presentation, and your own work, what would you see as the best use of this center in the future?
[8:42] Rik Riel: Shava, I'm sure you have some thoughts on this, given your own RW work
[8:43] Shava Suntzu: Well, education is my first thought. I told a lot of folks about Tuna and my installation for the art project
[8:43] Shava Suntzu: They didn't know what the ICC was
[8:43] Rik Riel: (for thjose who came late, you can click on the gold box for a flyer about the center)
[8:43] Shava Suntzu: One person said, "Isn't that the group that wants to take our troops to court?"
[8:43] Shava Suntzu: So there's a lot of consciousness to be raised...:)
[8:44] Shava Suntzu: But there's a great potential to bring together the justice-related/social action nonprofits here too
[8:44] In Kenzo: Amazing how the ICC has not been discussed much in the US....
[8:45] In Kenzo: Very few people I meet know much on it at all.
[8:45] Mariel Voyunicef: I agree with Shava on that one. When I first saw an ICC-related build on the TG, I was like, "Isn't that called ICJ?"
[8:45] Earadriede Callisto: i definitely agree on the education idea
[8:45] Shava Suntzu: Well, it got dismissed very quickly on a national basis in DC, and then the press developed their own "manufactured consent" on the issue
[8:45] Hayduke Ebisu: perhaps some more immersive education concepts could be explored that help people understand why the ICC is so necessary
[8:45] Hayduke Ebisu: move it beyond just clickable signs and such
[8:45] Rik Riel: education is definitely the beginning
[8:46] Hayduke Ebisu: that's hard, and potentially expensive, though
[8:46] Mariel Voyunicef: Also, I'm not sure if this part is subject to discussion, but I think the live broadcast from the ICC would be a real eye-opener
[8:46] In Kenzo: At least understanding the relevance from a global perspective, something that is hard to get when watching major media....combining it with experiences like Virtual Guantanamo that show the other side.
[8:47] Rik Riel: We'll have some people from virtual "Gone Gitmo" here at 1pm to talk about their project
[8:47] In Kenzo: awesome, they are incredible, the new build is just over on teh next sim if you haen't been there before.
[8:47] Shava Suntzu: The term "sovereignty" seems key to people here understanding so many issues -- why we can't have gambling, why an ICC is necessary, why they need to pay VAT.
[8:47] Rik Riel: we definitely need to prepare people for waht they are watching if we host live video from the ICC trials
[8:47] Hayduke Ebisu: I do worry that a lot of the content/experience we all care about in SL is very dispersed... spread out over lots of mostly empty sims
[8:47] Vivienne Cassavetes: yes
[8:47] Hayduke Ebisu: makes it hard for a casual participant in SL to learn more, experience it
[8:48] In Kenzo: yes, especially when not connected
[8:48] Hayduke Ebisu nods
[8:48] In Kenzo: perhaps there needs to be a "wake up" tour
[8:48] Rik Riel: or a HUD
[8:48] Mariel Voyunicef: Videos?
[8:48] Annie Octavia: the world is also a big place. as is the internet.
[8:48] In Kenzo: an easy way to connect experiences via teleports?
[8:48] Rik Riel: or a multi-sim series of events hapening on the same day
[8:48] Hayduke Ebisu: depends on the audience... not sure casual users will put on huds (that's probably a whole different conversation)
[8:49] In Kenzo: true hayduke
[8:49] Rik Riel: ok HUD was a bad idea
[8:49] In Kenzo: world refugee day is coming up in June, one opportunity
[8:49] In Kenzo: to gather groups around a common cause
[8:49] Hayduke Ebisu: good thought, in kenzo
[8:49] Vivienne Cassavetes: interesting that we havent found a lot of ways to truly collaborate in here
[8:49] In Kenzo: think we have
[8:49] Shava Suntzu: Actually we have
[8:49] In Kenzo: and we are finding much more
[8:49] Vivienne Cassavetes: oh really?
[8:49] In Kenzo: there's 6 of us working together on a new initiative now
[8:49] Vivienne Cassavetes: humm
[8:50] In Kenzo: who all met here, doing RL work togethe rnow
[8:50] Shava Suntzu: In and I met 2.5 years ago in a collaborative around social issues.
[8:50] Rik Riel: well the start up time for just getting your own group into SL is so long and hard
[8:50] In Kenzo: somteimes it's easier to leverage your SL friendships to do more RL
[8:50] Rik Riel: after that, you start to look for partners and friends to help out
[8:50] In Kenzo: than to organize something new here
[8:50] Shava Suntzu: The 4th birthday celebration involved about 100 or 200 avatars.
[8:50] Annie Octavia: for those of you that have successful collaboration experiences, could you compare ease/difficulty to rl experiences?
[8:51] Shava Suntzu: The issue is taking it to the real world.
[8:51] Rik Riel: can I ask about the value of bringing in real world events into the Center?
[8:51] Shava Suntzu: In Boston we have a SL/RL meetup (thru meetup.com) and we take on RL projects and SL projects
[8:51] Hayduke Ebisu: rik... I always find those compelling
[8:51] Rik Riel: It takes a lot of work and money and time to do well, but may not be what SL is good for
[8:51] Hayduke Ebisu: it's a way for me to see an event that I can't go to
[8:51] Hayduke Ebisu: an easier way to do it
[8:51] Hayduke Ebisu: might be to be like the Tivo of these events
[8:51] Hayduke Ebisu: record them... and then let people sit and browse them at their own pace
[8:52] In Kenzo: I find anything compelling that gives me access that I could not otherwise get RL.....like Mr. Ocampo certainly
[8:52] In Kenzo: but also like Gitmo
[8:52] Hayduke Ebisu: the live events where you can actually ask questions, etc. of rl speakers are nice, but in general they are not that effective (from what I have seen)
[8:52] In Kenzo: that takes me to a place I cannot reach otherwise. for groups coming together, that can be galvanizing to experience these things together.
[8:52] Annie Octavia: how is broadcast, a simulcast of ocampo in sl different from one on traditional media?
[8:52] Rik Riel: I know that beaming into SL real world conferences and events really excited real world activist groups
[8:52] Mariel Voyunicef: I think they're good every once in a while, Hayduke. My fave SL event ever was like that
[8:52] Hayduke Ebisu: I think the social nature of experiencing the events
[8:53] Hayduke Ebisu: the backchannel chatting that happens during "rl" events is quite nice
[8:53] In Kenzo: I like being able to ask questions and have some interactivity + the backchannel and learning from my coshorts here
[8:53] Shava Suntzu: The backchannel at any RL event that's piped in is as important as the event, though.
[8:53] Hayduke Ebisu: agreed, shava
[8:53] Rik Riel: interesting.
[8:54] Hayduke Ebisu: it's something that has been happening at RL geek events (like O'Reilly conferences) for years
[8:54] In Kenzo: here we don't need twitter
[8:54] Hayduke Ebisu: and it works really well...
[8:54] Hayduke Ebisu: twitter blows ;-)
[8:54] In Kenzo: we just use group chat
[8:54] Hayduke Ebisu: (another conversation)
[8:54] Hayduke Ebisu: sorry
[8:54] Hayduke Ebisu: lol
[8:54] In Kenzo: haha
[8:54] Rik Riel: I don't want to keep people past the hour. Are there any other words of advice or recommendations or critique before I close this session?
[8:54] Hayduke Ebisu: good facilitation, rik
[8:55] Rik Riel: Also if you want to mull about it, you can send a notecard t ome later or email me at rik@globalkids.org
[8:55] Shava Suntzu: thanks!
[8:55] Michele Mrigesh: Thank you!
[8:55] Hayduke Ebisu: my slides are up at: http://www.slideshare.net/jknauer/activism-in-second-life-commonwealth-islands
[8:55] Hayduke Ebisu: I'm always happy to talk about it if you are interested for other groups
[8:55] Elle Connaught: Thanks
[8:55] Rik Riel: (I want slideshow training from Hayduke btw)
[8:55] Hayduke Ebisu: ?
[8:55] Hayduke Ebisu: really?
[8:56] Rik Riel: seriously, good stuff
[8:56] Hayduke Ebisu: thanks
[8:56] Rik Riel: Mariel, was there anything else from your experience at the March 20 event that we should know about>
[8:56] Hayduke Ebisu: it paced better irl, but the text chat delivery wasn't too bad
[8:56] Mariel Voyunicef: Well, nothing really ground-shaking
[8:57] Mariel Voyunicef: I would have never expected to hear a prosecutor speak.
[8:57] Rik Riel: how was the crowd and their reaction inworld?
[8:57] Rik Riel: (welcome, haon!)
[8:57] Mariel Voyunicef: They seemed to be moved by some of the things that were said
[8:57] haon Arado: thank you
[8:57] Mariel Voyunicef: And it was nice to see discussion in-world on what was being said
[8:58] Rik Riel: thanks Mariel. We at Global Kids are still thinking about how to balance real world events, exhibitions, workshops, and other activities here in the Center.
[8:58] Rik Riel: And how to connect that to the larger SL ecology of groups that have been here for years
[8:59] Rik Riel: So please keep us and the Center in mind and drop us any thoughts and suggestions. And do invite others to the 1pm session here.
[8:59] Rik Riel: I should mention that we are developing a tool to connect people in the developing world toSL using mobile phone text messaging.
[8:59] In Kenzo: nice
[8:59] Earadriede Callisto: cool
[9:00] In Kenzo: better than my MotoQ inworld!
[9:00] Shava Suntzu: SMS is more universal than email
[9:00] Rik Riel: We can host faciltitated chats with people in, say, Uganda or Congo where the ICC is conducting investigations
[9:00] Rik Riel: i.e. former child soldiers, journalists, activists on the ground, etc
[9:01] Rik Riel: we'll be announcing more about that soon
[9:01] Mariel Voyunicef: (Ish,
[9:01] Mariel Voyunicef: (Ishmael Beah please!!!)
[9:01] Rik Riel: so thank you all for coming, and be sure and stick around for the great art work by both adult and teen digital artists all around you!
[9:02] Hayduke Ebisu: thanks, rik
[9:02] Rik Riel: oh and join the "international Justice center" group inworld to stay abreast of what we are doing here
[9:02] Shava Suntzu: Some of which is up in the sky -- look for the teleporters! :)
[9:02] Shava Suntzu: If anyone wants a notecard with a directory of the art, I can drop you one.
[9:02] Rik Riel: we also havea google group, if your in-world groups are maxed out, like mine always are
[9:02] Michele Mrigesh: I would like one Shava...
[9:02] Rik Riel: http://groups.google.com/group/ijc-announce/
[9:03] Rik Riel: and of course our website http://justicecenter.net
[9:03] Shava Suntzu: just a sec, Michele, I'm digging it up
[9:03] Rik Riel: Thanks everyone for coming!
[9:03] Michele Mrigesh: Thank you Shava...
[9:03] Earadriede Callisto: nice presentation
[9:03] Michele Mrigesh: Thank you Rik....this has been very helpful
[9:04] Mariel Voyunicef: Thanks, Rik ^^
[9:04] Rik Riel: and thanks Hayduke again for a great presentation
[9:04] Shava Suntzu: yes, thanks all!
[9:04] Hayduke Ebisu: no problem, happy to do it
[9:04] Earadriede Callisto: and of course great discussion
[9:05] Hayduke Ebisu: ah, ok
[9:05] Hayduke Ebisu: adios all... I have to get back to rl now
[9:05] Rik Riel: this video about the opening of the Center rawks btw http://youtube.com/watch?v=5tXNw33vrS0
[9:05] Mariel Voyunicef: Thanks for the presentation, Hayduke :)
[9:05] Rik Riel: thanks alfonso
[9:06] Shava Suntzu: Draxtor Dupres does great work! :)
[9:06] In Kenzo: I loved Draxtor's piece
[9:06] Rik Riel: de donde eres Alfonso?
[9:07] Rik Riel: there ya go
[9:07] Rik Riel: Shava, you wanted to interview me?
[9:07] Shava Suntzu: Yes, please. Do you want to do that here?
[9:07] Rik Riel: how shall we do it?
[9:08] Shava Suntzu: I am easy. I can ask you questions here in spatial, in IMs, or we can go somewhere. Obviously, voice hates me today...*sigh*
[9:08] Alfonso Perfferle: bye bye, and thank aain
[9:08] Shava Suntzu: I think SL Voice rolls dice when I get in world to see if I have voice that day.
[9:09] Rik Riel: folks you are welcome to hang out. Shava is going to interview me in a minute though.

Community Forum #2
[12:48] Amandeep Timeless: i'm no expert, but i'm interested in historical motives and reasoning
[12:49] Rik Riel: hi evelien!
[12:49] Rik Riel: welcmoe
[12:49] Evelien Blinker: hi
[12:49] Rik Riel: we'll get started in about 12 minuts
[12:49] Evelien Blinker: k
[12:49] Rik Riel: please have a seat if you like
[12:50] Evelien Blinker: hx
[12:50] Evelien Blinker: t
[12:50] Rik Riel: the gold box in the air has a flyer about the Justice Center
[12:50] Amandeep Timeless: i read the card from the floating gold box, is there any other preliminary material?
[12:51] Rik Riel: nonny, if you could speak for about 8-10 minutes about Gone Gitmo and what you have learned about teaching people about human rights issues in SL
[12:51] Rik Riel: you can find more info on justicecenter.net
[12:51] Rik Riel: I can also put up the video screen if you want to see some video of our first event here
[12:52] Rik Riel: hit play on your video player
[12:52] Amandeep Timeless: i can't go btween SL and web easily
[12:53] Rik Riel: no worries. You don't really need to know much going in.
[12:53] Rik Riel: I'll give all the context when I introduce the forum
[12:56] Rik Riel: let me go russle up some scragglers and we'll get started in a few minutes
[12:56] Rik Riel: hiya fleep
[12:57] Fleep Tuque: Hi Rik!
[12:57] Rik Riel: we're about to start the community forum on the Justice Center in a couple minutes
[12:57] Fleep Tuque: Excellent!
[12:57] Rik Riel: its in the amphitheater if you would like to stop by
[12:57] Fleep Tuque: Going to wander around a bit, first time I've managed to get here, I was sorry to miss the opening. :)
[12:57] Rik Riel: sounds great
[12:58] Rik Riel: can you both hear us speaking?
[12:59] Rik Riel: hi delora
[12:59] Rik Riel: welcome
[12:59] Amandeep Timeless: yes
[13:00] Rik Riel: hi everyone!
[13:00] Rik Riel: please have a seat
[13:00] Rik Riel: In K, do you mind using voice?
[13:01] Evelien Blinker: please do
[13:01] Nonny Writer: so I'll have to stop eating corn chips I guess
[13:01] Rik Riel: We'll be happy to receive your messages via text chat, but the presentations will go much quicker via voie chat
[13:01] Rik Riel: raise you hand if that's a problem
[13:02] Rik Riel: cool
[13:02] Fleep Tuque: Voice is a-ok for me
[13:02] Rik Riel: have a seat nonny
[13:02] Nonny Writer: ok
[13:02] Rik Riel: I'll bring you up in a sec
[13:03] Rik Riel: why don't people if they feel comfortable mention where they are logging in from, and if they are with any particular organization or group
[13:03] Rik Riel: I'm Rik Panganiban, with Global Kids, coming in from New York City
[13:03] Fleep Tuque: Chris Collins, University of Cincinnati in Ohio
[13:03] Fleep Tuque: :)
[13:03] Nonny Writer: Nonny de la Pena, with Gone Gitmo from Los Angeles
[13:03] Evelien Blinker: I'm a lawyer iinterested in this initiative
[13:03] Chrisy Darwin: Chris Schmidt, just private, from Germany at the moment
[13:04] Rik Riel: great!
[13:04] Rik Riel: ok let's get started. More people will rez in shortly I'm sure
[13:04] Amandeep Timeless: Las Vegas, just an Earth Versed Wondering Minstrel
[13:12] Fleep Tuque: Ahhh! Ok, sorry haven't gotten a chance to look around much - glad to hear it! :)
[13:12] In Kenzo: I'm working with them now as well Fleep
[13:12] Fleep Tuque nods.
[13:12] In Kenzo: and others, to develop these spaces
[13:13] Fleep Tuque: I'm interested in seeing international relations students and perhaps mock trials using this space
[13:13] Fleep Tuque: nod
[13:13] Fleep Tuque: thanks Rik!
[13:13] In Kenzo: Connecting the dots is sooo helpful, thank you Rik!
[13:13] In Kenzo: Fleep, I will take that back to the team at USC, and stay tuned for more on their upcoming opportunities here.
[13:13] Rik Riel: welcoome back pavig
[13:13] Rik Riel: welcome littletoe
[13:13] Fleep Tuque: Thanks In Kenzo!
[13:13] Rik Riel: we're using voice chat
[13:14] Rik Riel: tell us if you can hear it
[13:14] Rik Riel: click the gold box for a flyer about the Center
[13:15] Rik Riel: I made a video about the Gone Gitmo sim here: http://blip.tv/file/378730/ . Check it out later
[13:16] Fleep Tuque: Excellent thanks Rik
[13:16] Rik Riel: welcome lion
[13:16] Rik Riel: we're using voice chat for the presentations
[13:16] Rik Riel: please enable that in your preferences if you have not already
[13:17] Rik Riel: neat
[13:20] Chrisy Darwin: could you give us a LM to the sim please?
[13:21] Rik Riel: lol
[13:22] Rik Riel: wow
[13:23] Fleep Tuque: Thanks Nonny, do you have a LM dispenser
[13:23] Fleep Tuque: ?
[13:23] Amandeep Timeless: that sounds very intense
[13:23] Fleep Tuque: or can you pass out landmarks?
[13:23] Nonny Writer: yipes
[13:23] In Kenzo: It recently moved to a new location near us here, Network Cultur sim
[13:23] Nonny Writer: I don't have a landmark dispenser
[13:23] In Kenzo: Network Culture
[13:23] Nonny Writer: but I can send one along
[13:23] Fleep Tuque: nod ok, will look for it
[13:24] In Kenzo: right next door
[13:24] Fleep Tuque: :)
[13:24] In Kenzo: we can see it almost from here
[13:24] Rik Riel: little higher?
[13:25] Fleep Tuque: Yep can hear you well now
[13:25] Evelien Blinker: little more please
[13:25] Fleep Tuque: :)
[13:25] Rik Riel: you sound fine
[13:25] Fleep Tuque: (You can adjust individual volume with the Active Voice list)
[13:29] Rik Riel: welcome penguin
[13:29] Rik Riel: welcome peacefrog
[13:29] Rik Riel: we're hearing presentations in voicechat
[13:29] Rik Riel: please enable that if you have not already
[13:29] Rik Riel: hi ping!
[13:29] Nonny Writer: THx inkenzo
[13:30] Ping Rau: hi, I can be here for a few minutes
[13:30] Ping Rau: I can't - I'm in a public lobby
[13:30] Rik Riel: wow
[13:30] Fleep Tuque: Are you using specific communication tools outside of SL to keep your community/network cohesive?
[13:30] Rik Riel: any quetions?
[13:30] Fleep Tuque: I've found SL's internal tools marginal at best.
[13:31] Fleep Tuque nods.
[13:31] Fleep Tuque: Thanks! :)
[13:33] Fleep Tuque: The biggest issue is that people feel so disconnected from these events, it's something happening somewhere else to someone else and there's not really anything _I_ can do about it. Are these virtual spaces creating more immediate sense of experience? Are you seeing conversion rates of people taking real world action?
[13:33] Fleep Tuque: (Rik sort of asked the same question, but I was half way through typing so kept going) :)
[13:34] Fleep Tuque nods.
[13:34] Fleep Tuque: It's hard to measure that kind of thing here it seems. :)
[13:35] Fleep Tuque: I just ask because my uni wants metrics metrics metrics. ;)
[13:35] In Kenzo: I am sure we could try
[13:35] Rik Riel: wlcome GenTalk!
[13:35] Fleep Tuque: THanks Nonny, will look for that article
[13:35] In Kenzo: we are doing fair metrics here now on the USC sims, at least on visitors and who they are. it would not be hard to add a question piece at the end that asks if participants will take on future RL action
[13:35] In Kenzo: I think that's a great idea..
[13:35] Rik Riel: we're using voicechat for some of the presentations
[13:36] Ping Rau: Our build will be covered in the online version of VF, linked to from the print article.
[13:36] In Kenzo: USC is in the same boat fleep, and all of us would like to know more so we can do this better.
[13:36] Fleep Tuque nods.
[13:37] Fleep Tuque: Thanks all for your responses, good to know we're not the only one facing those questions!
[13:37] Pavig Lok: either via web or xml-rpc - then you're taking the pledge out of world which has more currency as a metric
[13:37] In Kenzo: want to give full choice
[13:37] In Kenzo: and not limit those actions
[13:37] Ping Rau: if we could check how many times people google, say, "habeas"
[13:38] Fleep Tuque: Gentalk your mic is live
[13:38] Fleep Tuque: :)
[13:38] In Kenzo: teehee, me
[13:38] Fleep Tuque: Alas I had to miss both!
[13:38] Pavig Lok: mee
[13:38] Ping Rau: sorry, have to go thanks
[13:38] Nonny Writer: tried but couldn't get in!!
[13:38] In Kenzo: thanks ping!
[13:38] Rik Riel: thanks ping!
[13:38] Fleep Tuque: Bye Ping
[13:38] Nonny Writer: bye ping
[13:38] Fleep Tuque: thanks for stopping by!
[13:38] In Kenzo: oh, we made room on the neighboring sim, we had to shuffle people back and forth
[13:39] In Kenzo: got a little crowded
[13:39] Fleep Tuque: I did see the interiview in the SLCNT archives though
[13:39] In Kenzo: amazing how air gets crowded!
[13:39] Fleep Tuque: er SLCN.tv
[13:39] Evelien Blinker: tell us how we can contribute to this initiative
[13:40] In Kenzo: /a note that USC and Global Kids will extend the art show for awhile so that others can see the works here, and Josina and the European artists in the sky will do a reprise performance. Join the group here for updates on events.
[13:41] In Kenzo: yes the group, International Justice Center
[13:41] Fleep Tuque: I'm sadly out of group slots, are there external email lists or.. yay googlegroup yes please
[13:41] Evelien Blinker: thx
[13:41] Fleep Tuque: :)
[13:41] Fleep Tuque: Rik keeps beating me to the punch! :)
[13:41] Rik Riel: http://groups.google.com/group/ijc-announce/
[13:41] In Kenzo: Rik will never leave you out of the loop.
[13:41] Rik Riel: haha
[13:41] Fleep Tuque: hehe
[13:41] In Kenzo: i ran out of groups too
[13:41] Nonny Writer: Rik
[13:41] Pavig Lok: have you got a gcal for events here?
[13:42] Rik Riel: that's why we set up the google group
[13:42] Nonny Writer: ONe thing about voice is you get an instant transcript
[13:42] Rik Riel: we're setting up gcal soon
[13:42] Rik Riel: true
[13:42] Nonny Writer: rather problem with voice is no transcript
[13:42] Nonny Writer: not sure what is ideal
[13:42] Rik Riel: so what other suggestions would you have about how we should use this space?
[13:42] In Kenzo: dialogue
[13:43] Fleep Tuque: One of the best ways we've engaged our students is through holding mock trials and mock trial competitions
[13:43] Rik Riel: so should we have more cultural events here like the art opening?
[13:43] Fleep Tuque: I'd love to see that happen, through university teams?
[13:43] Fleep Tuque: international competitions?
[13:43] Rik Riel: say music events?
[13:43] Rik Riel: mock trials are an in teresting idea
[13:44] Evelien Blinker: interesting indeed
[13:44] Fleep Tuque: Music events are also excellent ways to bring people in
[13:44] Penguin Kuhn: that sounds very cool
[13:44] In Kenzo: great idea I think
[13:44] Pavig Lok: cultural is good but i think maybe if you offer the venue to related groups for discussions it may work better.
[13:44] Rik Riel: if people know of relevant musical artists, please suggest them
[13:44] In Kenzo: agreed Pavig
[13:44] In Kenzo: i know protest singers, does that count?
[13:44] Rik Riel: sure
[13:45] Rik Riel: We want to support BOTH inworld groups and non-SL gorups to come inworld
[13:45] Amandeep Timeless: LM to gitmo experience
[13:45] Fleep Tuque: Grace McDunnough and Leslee McCarey are both in world musicians who have done a lot of work to promote social justice causes
[13:45] Fleep Tuque: Juel Resistance, too
[13:45] Evelien Blinker: thx for the presentations, hope to cu all again!
[13:45] Evelien Blinker: bye
[13:45] Amandeep Timeless: any place?
[13:45] Fleep Tuque: hehe
[13:45] Fleep Tuque: She's a doll!
[13:46] Rik Riel: evelien, we'll post the TP in the notes at justicecenter.net
[13:46] Evelien Blinker: k
[13:46] In Kenzo: agreed on Grace
[13:46] In Kenzo: I love that there are "stars" here
[13:46] Rik Riel: Juel Resistance I like as well
[13:46] Rik Riel: or an international African group wouldbe awesome
[13:46] Nonny Writer: slurl for gitmo:
[13:46] Nonny Writer: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Network%20Culture/232/87/25
[13:47] In Kenzo: Rik, talk to Riversong Garden when she's back, or Zeke Poutine
[13:47] Rik Riel: will do
[13:47] Rik Riel: maybe a justice jam?
[13:48] Nonny Writer: Does anyone still need sliurl for gitmo
[13:48] Penguin Kuhn: i like that! complete w/ virtual lighters?
[13:48] Rik Riel: I should mention that we are committed to bringing in people who aren't in SL, who don't even have computers
[13:48] Penguin Kuhn: i would love that please, nonny
[13:48] In Kenzo: i'll use my cell phone inworld as my lighter, with little particles
[13:48] In Kenzo: thanks rik for organizing here.
[13:48] Rik Riel: We're developing a tool to connect people in the developing world with SL using a cell phone text messaging
[13:48] In Kenzo: gotta fly!
[13:48] Rik Riel: ciao In K!
[13:48] Fleep Tuque: Sierra Leone's Refugee All Stars was recently profiled on NPR
[13:48] Fleep Tuque: http://www.rosebudus.com/refugeeallstars/
[13:49] Rik Riel: I would love to have them in here!
[13:49] Fleep Tuque: Their story was _incredibly_ moving
[13:49] Fleep Tuque: and the music fantastic
[13:49] Rik Riel: Fleep we're hiring you
[13:49] Fleep Tuque: hehe
[13:49] Fleep Tuque: and I'd love to know more about the SL on a cell phone tool, I've been following some of the African charities here in SL
[13:50] Fleep Tuque: there's soooo much work to be done
[13:50] Fleep Tuque: to connect folks there
[13:50] Rik Riel: also we are working with legal groups to do specific legal trainings on the ICC using SL
[13:50] Fleep Tuque nods.
[13:50] Fleep Tuque: That's a great idea too
[13:50] Rik Riel: or journalist groups doing press events in here
[13:51] Rik Riel: we're about out of time. If you have any thoughts that come to you after today, please contact me inworld or email rik@globalkids.org.
[13:51] Rik Riel: Or you can comment on our blog at justicecenter.net
[13:51] Fleep Tuque: I'll keep brainstorming and will be sure to send along any good contacts to you
[13:51] Rik Riel: much appreciated
[13:51] Fleep Tuque: I'm really looking forward to seeing how this develops
[13:51] Nonny Writer: Thanks all for coming. See you soon!
[13:51] Penguin Kuhn: thanks rik and everyone!
[13:51] Penguin Kuhn: best to you all
[13:52] Amandeep Timeless: is the gitmo sim near the darfur sim?
[13:52] Rik Riel: thanks everyone. we'll have a report on these forums up on the site shortly
[13:52] Rik Riel: with slurls to relevant locations
[13:52] Fleep Tuque: I've always felt one of the most wonderful thigns about SL is how empowering it can be for people who otherwise DONT feel empowered, I hope this will be a good venue for encouraging that kind of response.
[13:52] Pavig Lok: (( thanks mis nonny - i was just banging off a notecard to massively.com to see if they'd be interested in covering gone gitmo ))
[13:52] Fleep Tuque: Thanks so much Rik and Nonny
[13:52] Rik Riel: that's a great sentiment pavig
[13:52] Amandeep Timeless: thanks all, thanks hosts
[13:53] Fleep Tuque: I must run but have a great afternoon/evening/morning, wherever you happen to be! :)
[13:53] Rik Riel: yeah we gotta move that noisy art piece somewhere else
[13:53] Rik Riel: we'll be in touch Fleep
[13:53] Amandeep Timeless: is there a donation box anywhere around these parts?
[13:53] Rik Riel: we don't have one. you can donate on the Global Kids website though
[13:53] Amandeep Timeless: thx!
[13:53] Rik Riel: https://secure.groundspring.org/dn/index.php?aid=3146
[13:53] Amandeep Timeless: cya
[13:54] Peacefrog Ewinaga: bye
[13:54] Rik Riel: dop check out the artwork here !
[13:54] Chrisy Darwin: cu and tks
[13:54] Rik Riel: it will only be up for another couple of weeks
[13:55] Rik Riel: oh and thanks for wardobe help from Pavig!
[13:56] Pavig Lok: meh twas nothin :P
[13:56] Peacefrog Ewinaga: thanks guys see ya
[13:56] Rik Riel: thanks peacefrog
[13:58] Rik Riel: take care all!