[conf] Teen Chat from 12.12.07 MacArthur Stream
The Totally Wired: How Technology is Changing Kids and Learning public forum featured panelists Henry Jenkins, Katie Salen & Howard Gardner, was held Wednesday, December 12, 2007, 5:30-7:00 pm EST, at the Brattle Theatre, 40 Brattle Street, Cambridge, MA 02138.
Below is the abridged transcript from the teens who were watching on the Global Kids Estate. While watching the stream they discussed the topics as they were raised, such as:
- Web sites blocked at schools
- The concept of being a digital native
- The relevance of testing
Rafi Gkid: Have a seat guys, it's about to start!
Mk5793 Zeluco: lol....the seats still aren't scripted...
kevin Oto: they wont work
Rafi Gkid: Just need to click it from the right angle. : )
Cage Babii: what we doing
Rafi Gkid: Just hit play on your movie tab and you should be abl e t o see the st ream.
Mk5793 Zeluco: rafi...what's up with the pics to the right of the scre en? XD
Rafi Gkid: Those are the presenters tonight.
Rafi Gkid: Just hit your video tab to get the stream going.
kevin Oto: will be on youtube 2
Meghan GKid: Read the Green sign, also, for more info :)
Rafi Gkid: Welcome Mike, Kronos.
Rafi Gkid: We're watching a live panel from MIT with Henry Jenki ns, amon g ot her people.
Mk5793 Zeluco wants to see leroy jenkins XD
Mk5793 Zeluco: lol they're 2 mins late so far >.>
Rafi Gkid: It should start in just a couple of minutes.
Mike Denneny: Where is this taking place
Rafi Gkid: At MIT, which is in Cambridge Mass.
Mk5793 Zeluco: lol, noones waved at the camera so far >.>
Mk5793 Zeluco: *jeopardy song plays*
Mike Denneny: I could state several things that secondlife ha s cha nged ab out my life.
Mk5793 Zeluco: yay vidz!
Mk5793 Zeluco: omg thats SL!
Rafi Gkid: lol, yup, that was GK island
Rafi Gkid: Are you guys doing ok with loading? Can you hear it a lri ght?
Mk5793 Zeluco: I see it
kevin Oto: it see it
kevin Oto: and i hear it
Rafi Gkid: w00t sl!
Mk5793 Zeluco: w00t! SL 4 life!
Rafi Gkid: yay shout out.
kevin Oto: but not loud
Second Life: Your region will restart in 5 minutes and 0 s eco nds f or m ain tenance.
kevin Oto: omg
Mk5793 Zeluco: oh fun -_-
Second Life: Your region will restart in 1 minutes and 0 s eco nds f or m ain tenance.
kevin Oto: 1min
Mk5793 Zeluco: going down with the ship rafi?
Second Life: Your region will restart in 0 minutes and 30 sec onds for mai ntenance.
Rafi Gkid: i guess so... i tried, we'll be back up in a couple
Rafi Gkid: yup, you can watch on the web.
Rafi Gkid: do you guys have the video working?
kevin Oto: yap and yap and yap
kevin Oto: is he going to show any thijng
kevin Oto: he keeps talking
kevin Oto: why did i just foze
Rafi Gkid: well the panelists are going to get up there soon
kevin Oto: will they show second life on this
kevin Oto: or online sites
kevin Oto: or just talk
Rafi Gkid: not sure
Mk5793 Zeluco: lol they already have >.>
Rafi Gkid: you might try listening to what he's saying though. : )
Rafi Gkid: Katie wrote one of the best books on game design, if tha t's s omet hin g ya'll are interested in.
Echolon Syaka: so what they talking about
Echolon Syaka: like doing
Rafi Gkid: The book is called "Rules of Play"
Rafi Gkid: it's amazing
kevin Oto: were is it at
Navaro Bao looks it up
Mk5793 Zeluco: lol....book.... that word is almost archaic
Navaro Bao: Heh.
Rafi Gkid: Still important folks
Rafi Gkid: Howard Gardner is a HUGE guy in the field of psycholo gy
Navaro Bao: http://books.google.com/books?id=UM-xyczrZuQC& dq= rules +of+ pla y&pg=PP1&ots=2xLJxR5DZo&sig=H5V7y5mQhrlxsUjWBr1abCNhFPM&prev=http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=s&hl=en&q=rules+of+play&btnG=Google+Search&sa=X&oi=print&ct=title&cad=one-book-with-thumbnail
Rafi Gkid: he originated the idea of multiple intelligences
Navaro Bao: Thats the book link I think, heh.
Navaro Bao: Hooray for Feedback!
Echolon Syaka: embarising
Mk5793 Zeluco: gor that right XD
Mk5793 Zeluco: yes...static the evilness up XD
Navaro Bao: And then it started to Rain
Rafi Gkid: eep!
Mk5793 Zeluco: no one shall hear >:)
Echolon Syaka: what was that
Navaro Bao: She turned off her static machine.
Echolon Syaka: oh my gosh
Echolon Syaka: get better sound systems
Echolon Syaka: xD
Navaro Bao: "Allright, who's playing with Tinfoil?"
Mk5793 Zeluco: XD
Navaro Bao: It's good enough, we're used to things not wor kin g per fect all y. We do play secondlife afterall :P
Rafi Gkid: I'm being told that this is a really old theater with an old soun d s ystem,
Rafi Gkid: Do you guys feel empowered?
Mk5793 Zeluco: not atm
Mk5793 Zeluco: unless feeling empowered is what I think is fe eling bor ed. ..in which case, I must be really empowered >.>
Navaro Bao: Lol
Echolon Syaka: this is teh worst feedback ive ever heard i n m y wjo le l ife
Echolon Syaka: xD
Echolon Syaka: and he thinks talking louder is gunna make it so u can he ar him better
Echolon Syaka: but it just increases the feedback
Rafi Gkid: Welcome Ryan!
Ryan Dayton: thank you
Mk5793 Zeluco: lol...maybe we can have chewbacca translate fo r him ...
Rafi Gkid: How many of you have filters on computers at your sch ool s?
kevin Oto: we do
Ryan Dayton: I do
Echolon Syaka: me
kevin Oto: but we got to prozy sites
Ryan Dayton: sidewalksoup.com
Ryan Dayton: :D
kevin Oto: what that sidewalk site
Rafi Gkid: do all of you know how to use proxies to get around t he filte rs?
kevin Oto: yea
kevin Oto: i do
Ryan Dayton: Yep
Navaro Bao: I've got filters and use proxies :P
kevin Oto: second life was on the block
Mk5793 Zeluco: <3 proxy servers :D
kevin Oto: at school
Rafi Gkid: yay sl!
Navaro Bao: I use SL at school :P
Ryan Dayton: My school blocked my website for some reason
kevin Oto: WHy
Rafi Gkid: well duh, what with your anarchistc view and all.
Rafi Gkid: : D
kevin Oto: a techer said he was going to block my site
kevin Oto: becuse i was just on it all the time
Rafi Gkid: I love the way Henry talks about Harry Potter as a te en that chal len ges tthe system
kevin Oto: why do are school block site
kevin Oto: what did linden labs do to my school
kevin Oto: what did myspace do to my school
kevin Oto: what did google/yahoo do to my school
Rafi Gkid: those are good qwuestions
kevin Oto: youtube*
Navaro Bao: You can't use Google?
Navaro Bao: Jebus.
kevin Oto: snice google owns youtube
Rafi Gkid: why do you think they, and other sites like them, are bl ocked ?
kevin Oto: theywont let us on them
Rafi Gkid: What do you think is behind the blocking, intention-w ise ?
kevin Oto: they said if they block youtube it will block g oog le
Navaro Bao: Well google can come up with anything on the i nte rnet, inc lud ing Innapropriate sites.
kevin Oto: becuse they share the servers
Mk5793 Zeluco: I think it's just because of the immature i dio ts th at f eel the need to do stupid things online >.>
Rafi Gkid: Hum, so, perhaps, some education needs to happen for tee ns th at d on' t know how to safely surf, is that what you're saying? ; )
Ryan Dayton: we play quake 3 in class
Ryan Dayton: :O
Mk5793 Zeluco: I think some education needs to take place tha t say s th at there's no need to look at porn on the library computers >.>
Ryan Dayton: someone put it on a school network folder
Rafi Gkid: oye....
Ryan Dayton teeth hurt.
kevin Oto: oye?
kevin Oto: oye....???
kevin Oto: can they block msn
kevin Oto: becuse it come with all window computers
Rafi Gkid: kevin - look up ye on wikipedia. : )
kevin Oto: school say wikipedia is a bad site 2
Navaro Bao: Digierectus, Digisapien
Rafi Gkid: Welcome Mariel!
Mariel Voyunicef: Thanks :D Hi, all!
Lucky Figtree: sorry everyone, I have to go =/
Rafi Gkid: Right now Howard Gardner is speaking.
Mariel Voyunicef: Waaa, thanks to him I have excuses at sc hoo l. xD DD
Rafi Gkid: btw - if folks aren't aware, this event is celebratin g a seri es o f b ooks that are being relased today, all addressing diffent areas of how digital media is changing learning.
Rafi Gkid: The books are for sale, but also totally free for dow nlo ad on the we b.
Rafi Gkid: http://www.mitpressjournals.org/loi/dmal?cookieSet=1
Mariel Voyunicef: Thanks
Rafi Gkid: welcome
Navaro Bao: Gah, I gtg. Seeya Guys :P
kevin Oto: are they renting this place?
kevin Oto: becuse tell them
kevin Oto: next time get one with a nice mic
Rafi Gkid: Yeah, you can be sure that they're already aware....
Rafi Gkid: What do you guys think about the digital natives/digi tal immi gran ts language?
Mariel Voyunicef: Makes me go existentialist because at so me point I'l l b e an immigrant too x.x
Rafi Gkid: what do you mean?
Mariel Voyunicef: I guess that when I'm 35 there will be s ome thing new
Mariel Voyunicef: That people born in 2020 will pretty muc h g row u p wi th
Mariel Voyunicef: And then I'll feel old and close to deat h. :p
kevin Oto: idk
kevin Oto: will their be some thing new
kevin Oto: like other then computers
Rafi Gkid: Well, yes and no - the digital revolution does mean t hat cert ain peo ple are now trying to figure out how to interface with new media, but I think that now that it's underway, it'll be easier to keep up with.
Mariel Voyunicef: Not sure
Mariel Voyunicef: I don't see how digital media would help br eak a cyc le that's been going on for millennia
Rafi Gkid: hum, yeah, it's hard to predict how things will evolv e. Just a se nse though. I mean my grandfather knows really well how to use a tv, and that didn't come around until he was in his 20's.
Mk5793 Zeluco: they're still rambling, eh?
Mariel Voyunicef: Yeah, and so does my grandmum
Mariel Voyunicef: But she can't do a lot of stuff on the c omp uter
Rafi Gkid: rambling brilliantly. : )
Mariel Voyunicef: She wouldn't be interested at all on get tin g an acco unt in SL
Rafi Gkid: Smoopa, welcome!
Rafi Gkid: Did you get the video going?
Smoopa Spinotti: Holla :>
Smoopa Spinotti: Yep!
Mariel Voyunicef: Hi hi :)
Smoopa Spinotti: Hiya :D
Rafi Gkid: How many of you feel like the tests you take are test ing know ledg e t hat you'll need in the future?
Mk5793 Zeluco: lol...spanish maybe :P
Ryan Dayton: some, Rafi.
Rafi Gkid: What makes the difference between those that do and t hse that don 't ryan?
Ryan Dayton: The subject usually
Ryan Dayton: Like History
Ryan Dayton: blah
Rafi Gkid: History = irrelevant?
Ryan Dayton: some
Ryan Dayton: like
Ryan Dayton: the year
Mk5793 Zeluco: XD
Ryan Dayton: of events
Ryan Dayton: alot of US history is irrelevant
Mariel Voyunicef: I guess it depends on what you want to d o
Smoopa Spinotti: Thats true.
Rafi Gkid: So not necessarily history as a whole, but part of th e a ppora ch t o l earning history, such as memorizing dates, might be less useful, than, say roleplaying different players conniving to cotrol the seante in ancient rome.
Rafi Gkid: *senate
Ryan Dayton: right
Mariel Voyunicef: I do think that it's necessary, though
Mariel Voyunicef: Not at an extreme point where all you kn ow is da tes
Mariel Voyunicef: But I do wish some people had forced mor e s tuff into my brain when I was younger
Damien Rieko: wanna see my car?
Ryan Dayton: Who is going to go see National Treasure 2?
Rafi Gkid: no thanks Damien, I'm trying to watch./listen to the str eam.
Ryan Dayton: HENREY JENKINS!
Rafi Gkid: lol, yeah
Rafi Gkid: he rocks
Rafi Gkid: he'll be coming back to tsl soon
Smoopa Spinotti: Gasp.
Rafi Gkid: : )
Smoopa Spinotti: Do you know when?
Mariel Voyunicef: Can't it be sometime between 7th and 9th of Jan? Lol .
Rafi Gkid: smoopa, see that pic of his avatar next to the screen ?
Rafi Gkid: that was on GK island
Smoopa Spinotti: Oohhh
Rafi Gkid: lol, doubtful that soon Mariel. : P
Rafi Gkid: Hey away people, wake up for the closing remarks!
Ryan Dayton: be nice if we could hear
kevin Oto: hey
Rafi Gkid: yeah, we're trying to get them to use the mic
Rafi Gkid: this is ridiculous!
Rafi Gkid: virtual people are real people too!
Mk5793 Zeluco: XD
Smoopa Spinotti: Woman coughing was louder than him..
Smoopa Spinotti: Sheeeesh.
Mk5793 Zeluco: lol my computer fan is louder than him....
Smoopa Spinotti: Lmfao
Mat Brocco: oh he's talking?
Mk5793 Zeluco: XD
Smoopa Spinotti: XD
Mk5793 Zeluco: get that guy a megaphone XD
Rafi GKid throws Jonathan Fanton a megaphone.
Mat Brocco: LOL
Mat Brocco: everybody is out
Rafi Gkid: they're running for the hor'sdeveures
Smoopa Spinotti: XD
Mk5793 Zeluco: lol rafi, if you have someone there, make t hem wave to the camera XD
Mat Brocco: I like how everyone is just staggering out try ing to f ind the exit
Mk5793 Zeluco: XD
Mk5793 Zeluco: they need to stretch their legs, turn on so me music , et c X D
Mat Brocco: It stopped working for me lol
Rafi Gkid: oh noes, they stoppped it.
Mat Brocco: Rafi Santo what happen!!
Smoopa Spinotti: Yee, It stopped.
Mk5793 Zeluco: awwws
Mk5793 Zeluco: we dont getta see them wave?
Mat Brocco: .cry
Mk5793 Zeluco: turn it back on XD
kevin Oto: it over?
Rafi Gkid: It is indeed,
Rafi Gkid: Thanks to y'all for coming.
